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Each story is a fascinating snippet of history that your kids will actually enjoy and remember.
Whatever the answer is, I relly liked this story, coz Lila finally made the right decision (not that she never did), and Johanna , Julie Porter's sister gets the chance to shine.
One question : do any boys like Sweet Valley Twins books?
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In this one, Lila grows resentful over her father's new girlfriend, Joan Borden, and her 15-year-old daughter, Jacqueline. Lila thinks they're both gold diggers--which they are--but everyone--her father and friends included--seem oblivious to this. But not only are Joan and Jacqueline not what they appear to be, but Lila's new boyfriend (Evan Armstrong, a car racer she stole from his longtime girlfriend--with the help of Bruce Patman) has a surprise of his own for Lila, which involves Jacqueline.
As I mentioned before, Lila is certainly cold-hearted, but that's what I liked about her in this book. She was ruthless and punished anyone who took advantage of her, not that she would admit that they had, of course.
I did notice a minor goof in this book, though. Did anyone else notice that Jacqueline borrows Lila's car--but the girl is only 15 years old?
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Theres only two people living in the Fowlers Mansion, Lila, and her dad. The mansion has a olympic-sized pool, movie theater, volley-ball court, a bowling alley, and much more for only two people. Thats the reason Mr. Fowler wants to sell the mansion. It turns out a snobby girl named Rachel buys the mansion, and her and Lila are worst enemys. It turns out that Rachel isn't that bad. What happens next? Do they keep it, or sell it?
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1. Character development - Lila has absolutely no character development; even of the primary and critical character (Lila). She is reduced to being a cartoonish figure with no aspirations, dreams, or even strength.
2. Plot - We certainly do not expect anything by way of plot from Robert Pirsig - we know he is used to going where his Muse takes him, and that could be partly the reason for the cult following he commands. However, in writing a book such as this, one which involves Anthropology, culture, religion, philospophy, morals, ethics, science etc, one would need a common thread of a plot to be able to assimilate and consume and comprehend. Lila fails on that account. The thread, which was beautifully rendered in Zen, is sorely missing here.
3. Much like the way he has several slips noting details of things he's noted, the book progresses in the same fashion, with some random statements thrown in, without any dwelling on their consequence.
4. There are several repetitions of analogies and similarities, which, after some time, become a bit irritating and plain annoying.
The end is not at all satisfying; some explanations are thrown in, which make me wonder if the author was in a hurry to wrap things up, and if the only motivation or intention was to get rid of the book that seemed to be dragging on witout any concrete conclusion. Hence, if the alert reader notices, the absolutely abrupt way of the ending, in which everything is described as Good Is A Noun, is pretty disturbing, as is also his dismissal of Hinduism, which is characterized as being a low-grade imitation of what has been practised by American Indians! I was most unnerved by the illiterate and uneducated implication of the discourse that he gives after the Peyote meeting. Come on sir, we've seen better from you! Sorry to disappoint, and be disappointed.
I first read LILA in 1992, after stumbling onto the title in the reference section of a computer history book. The Metaphysics of Quality is exemplified in the guy/girl interactions and in the mind-presentations of the author.
Read again in 1994, again in 1997, and 4th reading in early 1998. In 1995, read ZEN, THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE. Good philosophy, plot was not as interesting as LILA. Afterward on death of his son was chilling.
Your other reviews are superb so instead I will give some chapter events that grabbed my attention.
Chapter 1. Phaedrus meets Lila in a bar and begin their journey down the river.
Chapter 2. The card catalog, using slips of paper to record throughts. Organizing, reviewing, saving, discarding. The perfect tool for random access. I have used this system throughtout my life, and I was astounded to read an account of my system in a book.
Chapter 3. Americans are the amalgam of American-Indians and Europeans. This concept is expanded thoughout the book.
Chapter 6, 11. Does Lila have Quality? Expansion on Metaphysics of Quality.
Chapter 8. The Platypus does not fit anthropological structure. Platypus analogy is used throughout the book.
Chapter 11. The "...jungle of evolutionary patterns..." Patterns. Quantum theory.
Chapter 12. Patterns. I love the hardware and software analogies....the guy who designs the hardware is independent of the guy who designs the software.
Chapter 13. The world is full of static and dynamic patterns. The dynamic patterns build onto the static patterns and if accepted by a critical mass of people then the dynamic pattern becomes static, building on or replacing old static patterns. Phaedrus gives examples that are obvious to the reader.
Chapter 17. The giant moth and the light globe.
Chapter 19. You are reading along, enthralled with Lila and Phaedrus and MOQ, and all of a sudd! en Robert Redford walks into Phaedrus' motel room...
Chapter 20. Celebrity. Social pattern devours intellectual pattern. OJ and verdict comes to mind.
Chapter 24. Does Lila have quality? (Again.) The price of dynamic quality is instability. The Professor in the black neighborhood...a short lesson on racism.
Chapter 25. Insanity. Phaedrus reveals his earlier life in an insane asylum...hmmm. And discourses on the experience.
Chapter 26. Insanity. Language. Philosophology. More.
Chapter 32 (last chapter). "Good is a noun. That was it..." Well, the author concludes that the Metaphysics of Quality defies precise definition due to the lack of precision in language..."but if you had to reduce whole MOQ to a single sentence, that would be it."
The fact that Pirsig is not well-known, not LarryKing material, speaks volumes for public interest in philosphy. The internet, bless the Internet, is a forum for hidden treasures such as Pirsig. And this review is intended as a contribution to those who seach for such treasure.
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Lila finds freedom in other ways. She reaches out for something tangible that penetrates the shell around her emotions. She finds it only in images. To feel sex is not enough that she needs to see it as well, herself in a mirror, or on a TV screen. She is able to describe her fantasies most lucidly to Chimo, her confidant, who duly transcribes them for our reading pleasure. It is the exciting, voyeuristic joy gained from reading these accounts; of loveless sexual hedonism from the mouth of a child, that disturbs me about this account most of all. It seems even at 16 years of age Lila is rendered incapable of love. Could she love Chimo?
Chimo describes Lila's beauty with such eloquence and emotion that it is clear that he loves her. But does such eloquence betray the book as ghost written by the publishers; the story of the anonymous manuscripts simply a publicity stunt? The naivety, simplicity and disorder of the work adds an air of authenticity. In a sense it does not matter who wrote it, the book will leave you breathless anyway.
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Even if it were interesting, why someone would pay good money to read these postings as a book instead of for free over the internet...is hard to understand, unless the notes Pirsig adds makes them worth it. And quality annotations would be highly valued by anyone interested in the Metaphysics of Quality (MOQ) - Pirsig's muddled, re-packaged form of idealism that could dearly use some clarity. But Pirsig mostly misses this opportunity and manages only a scant clarification here and there, such as when he expresses his desire to reverse the impression left in Lila that all moral issues can be solved with his system, or when he categorically states that only people, and not animals, are social patterns of value under the MOQ.
A typical notation of Pirsig's consists of one or two clipped sentences that do little or nothing to further understanding, except perhaps in the overactive imagination of some readers, and on a couple of occasions he appears distressingly detached from his own ideas, such as when he makes a statement that is prefaced by the qualifier, 'If I understand the MOQ properly,...'.
The book does manage to capture some of the excitement of a crusading bunch who are under the illusion that Pirsig's ideas will change the world, although it becomes exasperatingly apparent that no two people can exactly agree to what those ideas are, or how they should be applied. One contributor, Doug Renselle, went on to invent Quantonics, an offshoot of the MOQ that is a worthy addition to the burgeoning field of psychoceramics.
Dan Glover does a serviceable job of rearranging the posts to make them more readable, and Struan Hellier makes some incisive comments, but beyond that the book is notable only for its confusions, illogic, and philosophical stabs in the dark.
This book is no Pirsig "lovefest." Dissenters abound in the discussions, many of whom are quite intelligent and learned. Pirsig's well-reasoned responses to the best dissenters provide some of the book's greatest insights.
By integrating the age-old wisdom of the most enlightened Buddhist and mystic philosophers into a rational, scientific, metaphysical framework, the Metaphysics of Quality may be the greatest intellectual achievement of the 20th century. Lila's Child, the third in the trilogy started by Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance and Lila, is an important work to help integrate this achievement into our intellectual culture.